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. >> the national government came to pay their respects. that is something nothing has seen. >> the prime minister himself described this has the worst tragedy. in chls millions of people died this country is no stranger to tragedy. >> one year later the bridge is demolished. even though it's less than two years ode. there's no structural damage but it's deemed too painful a reminder. a memorial is constructed to honor those lost. >> one of the key things was the crowd control ability isn't there. the policing wasn't in place. >> most of the people were young. just young kids. this is a time of celebration. a time to have a good time and to let go. for it to end like that, it affected a lot of people. >> coming up -- out of control college students turn a city upside down. >> i looked up, and i see a tv coming out the window. >> when "caught on camera: crowd control" continues. ┌ );#aÑ÷a2o;a0!san )0(;#a @< oga4+g)(;#a(0 @Ø(;#a3? 'ioia:(;#aÑ÷]<ókkey3?+e+9@>);#a3?+ea>/<@d aÅa2)(;#┌@4+g(+ean anÅ'9a0%ad3?+ea>/
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a pasthun-dominated government there. so there is really little reason to see we'll get much out of the negotiations. secretary clinton is brilliant as a diplomat, she is trying to pull together what she has got. but the fact of the matter is, we're coming out. the taliban knows it. so does the karzai government, why would this not be a bad situation? >> so looking at history, sir, is the u.s. the soviet union? >> well, no, not at all. we're actually in there, and i think in a legitimate way. with a punitive expedition to try to respond to the attack, which was launched and coordinated from afghanistan. and, so i think the intervention was legitimate. it was flawed execution, starting with the bush team. president obama surged more forces in there, did some good on the ground. but it didn't produce an afghan government that was competent, and had some sense integrity, the key to afghanistan is pakistan, and possibly, they're on the verge of unraveling also, potentially with nuclear weapons, so tough situation for america.
a pasthun-dominated government there. so there is really little reason to see we'll get much out of the negotiations. secretary clinton is brilliant as a diplomat, she is trying to pull together what she has got. but the fact of the matter is, we're coming out. the taliban knows it. so does the karzai government, why would this not be a bad situation? >> so looking at history, sir, is the u.s. the soviet union? >> well, no, not at all. we're actually in there, and i think in a...
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the people in massachusetts have seen how he will govern, are not happy with their former govern. >> interesting. you went after romney in a debate over when exactly he left his position at bain capital, which has been an enormous part of this election. take a listen. >> the fact is you were still signing documents as ceo of the company while you were away. and as a matter of fact, in the summer of 2001, when you were leaving the olympics, you actually made a statement in the paper that in the summer of 2001, you were finally relinquishing 100% control of your position within bain. >> i was out in utah, full-time. i had no responsibility for management at bain capital. i was not running bain capital, and therefore am not responsible for acts of bain capital when i left. >> would the president be wise to bring up bain in the next debate, something he did not do in the first? >> i think the most important thing that he can bring up is the comments about 47%. i think that mitt romney, while he has disavowed them, the fact is the policies he has been talking about during the course of th
the people in massachusetts have seen how he will govern, are not happy with their former govern. >> interesting. you went after romney in a debate over when exactly he left his position at bain capital, which has been an enormous part of this election. take a listen. >> the fact is you were still signing documents as ceo of the company while you were away. and as a matter of fact, in the summer of 2001, when you were leaving the olympics, you actually made a statement in the paper...
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you saw where that led us to a government surplus in 23 million jobs created. the republicans in the next decade, did all the same sorts of things that mitt romney would like to do today, passed a tax cut for the wealthiest that led to the lowest pace of job creation since world war ii, stripped back oversight from wall street a financial house of cards that collapsed in 2008. so president clinton made clear this isn't some sort of economic theory, we've tried these policies before and you saw where we ended up. let's pursue those that work. >> ben in terms of the strategy, we were talking about the fact that mitt romney has been trotting out i won't call it stakes, maybe dried pieces of chicken in terms of policy specifics, the $17,000 bucket, et cetera, is there concern that these are enough of a distraction to turn the dynamics of the debate away from a more aggressive posture that the president might take vis-a-vis mitt romney's obfuscation. >> the american people will be tuning in for specifics tonight. they know mitt romney can ably attack the president.
you saw where that led us to a government surplus in 23 million jobs created. the republicans in the next decade, did all the same sorts of things that mitt romney would like to do today, passed a tax cut for the wealthiest that led to the lowest pace of job creation since world war ii, stripped back oversight from wall street a financial house of cards that collapsed in 2008. so president clinton made clear this isn't some sort of economic theory, we've tried these policies before and you saw...
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it will include three on the economy, one on health care, one on governing and one on the state of government. the role of government, i should say. now, both candidates will be standing at podiums. no strict time limits. each candidate will have two minutes to answer that question and then the rest of the segment will be an open discussion about the topic at hand. so that is how the debate is going to do. aides with the obama campaign say his goal is to deliver his message in a crisp and clear manner. to not seem too long winded as sometimes he has in the past. so that's really his goal and also to make the case about why he thinks he can do a better job in these next four year of turning the economy around and to really give people specifics. as i said, the first lady will be there tonight. it is their 20th anniversary. no time to really celebrate tonight. they say they will do that this weekend. >> quite a way to celebrate. thanks so much. we head tout peter alexander in denver, where mitt romney has been for several days now prepping for the debate this evening. >> you had plenty of sport
it will include three on the economy, one on health care, one on governing and one on the state of government. the role of government, i should say. now, both candidates will be standing at podiums. no strict time limits. each candidate will have two minutes to answer that question and then the rest of the segment will be an open discussion about the topic at hand. so that is how the debate is going to do. aides with the obama campaign say his goal is to deliver his message in a crisp and clear...
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>> well, mine's a government debt. i don't have any private debt. >> i paid 3% in college. >> happy anniversary, mr. president. >> 20th anniversary. >> who is going to cut the spending? who is it? it's romney. >> can i ask a question, please? >> sure. >> go ahead. i want to know what mitt romney's policy is on cancer. she relies on social security and medicare. she's not a lazy person. she worked and it's dependent for them to provide car care. i want to know what his policy is. >> we're curious about israel, how the relations are going to happen. >> regardless, we have obama or romney. >> thank you. let's go down here. do you have any questions? >> i have a question for romney. >> sure. >> i want to know where is the evidence that tickle down works. >> what? >> how does trickle down work? show me the evidence. >> how does cutting the taxes for the rich help everybody else? thank you. we'll be right back with more "hardball" for tonight and the debate. [ woman ] ring. ring. progresso. i just finished a bowl of your new
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he makes it sound like there's something really wrong getting a check from the government, makes you dependent when you may have worked from age 14 to 65, you get 15, 20 years you have good health, of benefits. that's the deal. that's not bad. why is he doing this? >> seems like they're doubling down again. romney with 47% and ryan with 30%. we're 100%. >> can you remember a time where a political party has carved out a huge part of the country saying we don't like you, we don't respect you, we want to get rid of you with the way you live. >> that's the impression they're leaving. president eisenhower didn't do that, president nixon didn't do that, president reagan made us feel like we were all in it together. >> i've never seen a politician say, i'll take the other part of the vote. i'm not interested in your half, or in this case, 70% he's giving away. >> that's right. i have never heard such language. i think it will allow obama to extend the 47% argument to not only ryan but to the entire republican party. he can say, this is a party that slices and dices the american public. in
he makes it sound like there's something really wrong getting a check from the government, makes you dependent when you may have worked from age 14 to 65, you get 15, 20 years you have good health, of benefits. that's the deal. that's not bad. why is he doing this? >> seems like they're doubling down again. romney with 47% and ryan with 30%. we're 100%. >> can you remember a time where a political party has carved out a huge part of the country saying we don't like you, we don't...
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that angered the turkish government. the prime minister says the syrian government will be held accountable for this and we also understand that turkish officials are now reaching out to nato to possibly exercise nato's article in which any member of nato that is attacked could respond and it's really just highlighting the sense situation on the turkish/syria border there after this deadly incident. the attack in aleppo you referenced really two different accounts coming out from inside syria. the syrian government, the official line from them, this was a terrorist attack, three suicide car explosions taking place in aleppo targeting a military installation, an officers club that killed 31 people. opposition activists say this was an attack targeting the command headquarters if you will of the military operating in aleppo that killed at least 40 people. over the past several days, we know that syrian rebels have been launching an offensive to try to capture the entire city of aleppo. we also know from pro government sour
that angered the turkish government. the prime minister says the syrian government will be held accountable for this and we also understand that turkish officials are now reaching out to nato to possibly exercise nato's article in which any member of nato that is attacked could respond and it's really just highlighting the sense situation on the turkish/syria border there after this deadly incident. the attack in aleppo you referenced really two different accounts coming out from inside syria....
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economy on government. >> okay. >> we're now spending the 42% of our economy on government. i don't want to go down the path to spain. i want to go down the path of growth that puts americans to work with more money coming in because they're working. >> yeah, but, mr. president, you're saying in order to get it -- get the job done, it's got to be balanced? >> if we're serious, we've got to take a balanced, responsible approach. and by the way, this is not just when it comes to individual taxes. let's talk about corporate taxes. now, i've identified areas where we can, right away, make a change that i believe would actually help the economy. the oil industry gets $4 billion a year in corporate welfare. basically, they get deductions that those small businesses that governor romney refers to, they don't get. now, does anybody think that exxonmobil needs some extra money, when they're making money every time you go to the pump? why wouldn't we want to eliminate that? why wouldn't we eliminate tax breaks for co
economy on government. >> okay. >> we're now spending the 42% of our economy on government. i don't want to go down the path to spain. i want to go down the path of growth that puts americans to work with more money coming in because they're working. >> yeah, but, mr. president, you're saying in order to get it -- get the job done, it's got to be balanced? >> if we're serious, we've got to take a balanced, responsible approach. and by the way, this is not just when it...
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we have a choice between a president with a record who promotes government dependency as opposed to romney who will help upward mobility for this country. that's a choice the american people want to make and they will make an informed choice based on the facts getting out there. >> you don't think it helped mitt romney had the primary to go through going up against your former bosses in those debates? >> those are certainly helpful. but when you have obviously more than one person you're going against, it's rather difficult. but the good thing as we saw in '08, what he was good with the mccain/obama debates, he let them go face to face. i expect to see that wednesday night. that's good. get the two of them in there debating the issues. make sure each of them are factually accurate about their records. focusing on the economy wednesday night. but foreign policy is something that's critically important given the current state of foreign policy where we have a leader now whose foreign policy has made us weak in the eye of the rest of the world whereas governor romney believe in peace through
we have a choice between a president with a record who promotes government dependency as opposed to romney who will help upward mobility for this country. that's a choice the american people want to make and they will make an informed choice based on the facts getting out there. >> you don't think it helped mitt romney had the primary to go through going up against your former bosses in those debates? >> those are certainly helpful. but when you have obviously more than one person...
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i heard more of the same, stimulus, hiring more government workers, raising taxes. those things don't create jobs, they cost jobs. >> joining me now is illinois democratic congresswoman jan schakowsky. she is also vice chair of the president's re-election campaign. and congressman, before i get to those jobs numbers, "the new yorker" has a cover, i'm sure you've seen, depicting mitt romney debating an empty podium, which, of course is a commentary on president obama's lackluster debate performance. you indicated the president may have been thrown off by romney's claims, which president obama says aren't what he has been running on. nevertheless, how is your team preparing the president right now to perform differently next time? >> well, you know, the "chicago sun-times" has an editorial that started, "obama on the facts, romney on style." you know, there was a different guy that appeared, as barack obama said, on debate night, that came up with a whole new set of policies and contradicted himself completely from what is the reality of the romney campaign. it's kind
i heard more of the same, stimulus, hiring more government workers, raising taxes. those things don't create jobs, they cost jobs. >> joining me now is illinois democratic congresswoman jan schakowsky. she is also vice chair of the president's re-election campaign. and congressman, before i get to those jobs numbers, "the new yorker" has a cover, i'm sure you've seen, depicting mitt romney debating an empty podium, which, of course is a commentary on president obama's lackluster...
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jobs, they spend money on government and create government created jobs through federal expenditures. that's their argument. >> and -- i don't understand the physical metaphor. the vision is gray suited bureaucrats dripping out of a faucet. >> but weird when, you know, half of the republican party or more than half is saying don't cut defense because it's going to cost us so many jobs. >> and that is their -- right. defense is spending of 4% of gdp -- >> trickle down government would be wars, right? >> we have to leave it there, unfortunately, my friend, but you are going to be continuing this conversation. >> oh, yeah. tomorrow on up a.m. we have great sound putting george w. bush and mitt romney side by side to see how much they're taking -- they're playbook correctly from him. >> i never get tired of george w. bush clips. >> we will be practicing our love tomorrow. deep cut. >> oh. practicing our love. yeah. >> coming up, the air up there, former vice president al gore comes up with a unique excuse regarding president obama's debate performance. we will ask our debate panel for th
jobs, they spend money on government and create government created jobs through federal expenditures. that's their argument. >> and -- i don't understand the physical metaphor. the vision is gray suited bureaucrats dripping out of a faucet. >> but weird when, you know, half of the republican party or more than half is saying don't cut defense because it's going to cost us so many jobs. >> and that is their -- right. defense is spending of 4% of gdp -- >> trickle down...
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trickle-down government. trickle-down government. trickle-down government. trickle-down government. trickle-down government. trickle-down government. and trickle-down government. >> nine times, seven minutes. the term trickle-down government is nonsensical. literally. it has no meaning apart from the way it is being used politically. and its political use is to make the classic and i always thought vaguely emasculating and grossout accusation of trickle-down economics seem less understandable. make that seem less like an understandable critique of an economic plan and more like campaign mumbo jumbo you hear from both sides. it has been used to criticize economic plans that rely on supposedly magical economic effect of giving money to rich people. rich people doing better is supposed to trickle down to non rich people somehow. that is the core of mr. romney's economic ideology and economic plan. so i think they have coined this other competing trickle down term so the insult of trickle-down economics starts to just sound confusing and meaningless. trickle-down government, trickle-dow
trickle-down government. trickle-down government. trickle-down government. trickle-down government. trickle-down government. trickle-down government. and trickle-down government. >> nine times, seven minutes. the term trickle-down government is nonsensical. literally. it has no meaning apart from the way it is being used politically. and its political use is to make the classic and i always thought vaguely emasculating and grossout accusation of trickle-down economics seem less...
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. >>> in iran, anti-government protests over the collapsing currency. police clashed with demonstrators. the currency lost 40% of the value in a week. >>> health officials warned dozens of weight loss substances are illegally labeled. one out of five products bought in stores or online claim to prevent or cure deadly diseases. >>> remember this? the late crocodile hunter, steve irwin clutching his baby boy as he went face-to-face with predators? that baby is 8 years old. he fed a crock hymn for the first time at the family zoo in australia. >>> this mornings dish of scrambled politics. the debate is the most tweeted event in police cal history. it sparked more than 2 million tweets. big bird from "sesame street" caused the peak of the tweets at 17,000 per minute. when romney said he loved the character but wanted to eliminate funding for the show and all public broadcasting. celebs were lighting up the stooer. bill maher said, i can't believe i'm saying this, but obama looks like he needs a teleprompter. eva longoria said i'm in new zealand watching the
. >>> in iran, anti-government protests over the collapsing currency. police clashed with demonstrators. the currency lost 40% of the value in a week. >>> health officials warned dozens of weight loss substances are illegally labeled. one out of five products bought in stores or online claim to prevent or cure deadly diseases. >>> remember this? the late crocodile hunter, steve irwin clutching his baby boy as he went face-to-face with predators? that baby is 8 years...
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three on the economy, one on health care, one on the role of government, and one on governing. who does this format favor, in your opinion? >> well, i think that tomorrow we're going to be listening to pundits say that mitt romney did what he needed to do. it favors the challenger just by putting him on the same stage with the president. however, mitt romney has several obstacles to overcome. not only does he have to give specifics as we've been talking about, he has to appear warm. he has to seem empathetic. he has to connect with the voters he hasn't connected with before. but it's also true that pitfalls face the president. obama clearly, genuinely does not like mitt romney. and while he can go after him aggressively on policy, the president shouldn't seem mean-spirited, pet tu lant, or smug. so there are some pitfalls facing both candidates, some mind fields out there. >> cynthia, erin, thank you for being here tonight. cynthia, i agree with you. if you stay on msnbc, the pundits will be out tonight, not tomorrow morning, saying what should have happened. >> tonight. yes. t
three on the economy, one on health care, one on the role of government, and one on governing. who does this format favor, in your opinion? >> well, i think that tomorrow we're going to be listening to pundits say that mitt romney did what he needed to do. it favors the challenger just by putting him on the same stage with the president. however, mitt romney has several obstacles to overcome. not only does he have to give specifics as we've been talking about, he has to appear warm. he...
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>> the court has ruled before that diversity is a compelling government interest. the government in other words has an interest, universities have an interest in compiling diverse classes of students, that diversity helps everyone and that they can look at an applicants's race in making some of those decisions. the court has changed since that last decision, that decision was written for instance by justice o'connor. some of the current justices are much less accepting of racial classification. >> the voting rights act of 1965, what part is at issue and why? >> this is a part that says certain states with a history of discriticism nation, most of them are in the south, they have to have any changes they make to election laws approved by federal authorities, either by the attorney general, or by a panel of freshmederal judges, t being challenged, saying there's no longer any reason in today's society to single out those kinds of states for special treatment. >> is there unexpected support of the president's health care law earlier this year? >> that will certainly b
>> the court has ruled before that diversity is a compelling government interest. the government in other words has an interest, universities have an interest in compiling diverse classes of students, that diversity helps everyone and that they can look at an applicants's race in making some of those decisions. the court has changed since that last decision, that decision was written for instance by justice o'connor. some of the current justices are much less accepting of racial...
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we had 600,000 government jobs added in the last two months. we had 873,000 jobs by a household survey, which is a total estimate from 50,000 phone calls. of those 600,000 were temporary workers. chris, these numbers are all a series of assumptions, tons of assumptions, and it just seems somewhat coincidental that the month before the election, the numbers go one tenth of a point below where they were when the president started, although i don't see anything in the economy that says these surges are true. the 873,000 jobs in the household survey is the strongest economy since 1983. i don't think you can find an economist, there were 25 of them this morning that predicted 8.1% to 8.2%, but they did predict 114,000 jobs. we got 114,000 jobs, and somehow the assumptions ended up at 7.8%. >> well, let me get back to your tweet this morning. it must be embarrassing for you to do a tweet now after the power you used to have. i mean, tweeting doesn't seem like something i'd hear from jack welch, and i mean it. here you put out the word, unbelievable j
we had 600,000 government jobs added in the last two months. we had 873,000 jobs by a household survey, which is a total estimate from 50,000 phone calls. of those 600,000 were temporary workers. chris, these numbers are all a series of assumptions, tons of assumptions, and it just seems somewhat coincidental that the month before the election, the numbers go one tenth of a point below where they were when the president started, although i don't see anything in the economy that says these...
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and that people even like what government is doing until the single-digit approval numbers for all of congress so they will support the anti-government party and perpetuating the pain that americans feel in this recession so they will throw out obama. it is not a bipartisan problem. it's an asymmetrical problem and historic. it's shocking it's not a national scandal that one party said we will put party aahead of country and inflict pain on america to have electoral success. >> do you think if republicans vote to raise taxes, governor norquist's head will explode? >> yes. the threat of that kind of primary challenge from that part of the party kept it for 22 years. amazing. >> before we go, one of us was bestowed a huge honor this weekend. a p aaody of s.e. cupp made it into an "snl" kick. >> i'm rachel maddow. we try to pick up the pieces and make sense of barack obama's perform in wednesday's debate. as we call it on msnbc, the worst thing ever happened anywhere. joining me toint is the reverend al sharpton. >> i'm never forget where i was the night of that debate. i was here. >> ot
and that people even like what government is doing until the single-digit approval numbers for all of congress so they will support the anti-government party and perpetuating the pain that americans feel in this recession so they will throw out obama. it is not a bipartisan problem. it's an asymmetrical problem and historic. it's shocking it's not a national scandal that one party said we will put party aahead of country and inflict pain on america to have electoral success. >> do you...
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governing vision for the country? you offer a governing vision for the country and then you tell people how you're going to specifically do it. he's accepting the premise of wongish questions that the vast majority of the american people don't understand and probably don't want to understand because it reminds them of a scene from the movie" dave." is the government too big or not? are taxes too high or not? >> or how about this one, do you need revenue or not? what about that one? that doesn't mean anything? >> well, that's the conversation that democrats want to have. >> but don't you think that's the conversation that american people want -- if you tell me you want to look at the deficit and you want to pay our debt for wars, for example, that were not paid for -- as i understand it when you pay for medicare and medicaid and some of the interests, everything else is paid for by loans. from china. if you want to talk about the numbers here, you have to talk about how to pay your bill. that's like having a conversati
governing vision for the country? you offer a governing vision for the country and then you tell people how you're going to specifically do it. he's accepting the premise of wongish questions that the vast majority of the american people don't understand and probably don't want to understand because it reminds them of a scene from the movie" dave." is the government too big or not? are taxes too high or not? >> or how about this one, do you need revenue or not? what about that...
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>> one of the things that was said is the government puts up big exclamation mark on it. it comes to your door and asks you in the sen cucensus that ha scholarships for ethnicity. let me see if i can find that ind -- because there was money for certain groups. >> but let's pause, katon. the group with the most money for are the white americans. the way i know that by looking the data. there are set asides for scholarship funds. typically not from state universities. from state funds. it's always from private funds. that's in part because the resources are so enormous by race. >> looking at social group identities. i look at what a latino identity means. we're not seeing a sub of the identity. objectively, she says i'm native american. do we see her partaking in that? that's not my prerogative. it's that difference kind of in social psychology between objective and subjective identification. >> there's another problem here. that is the way elizabeth warren handled this issue when it came up. add that she's now running, takes it head on and she talks about the fact that whe
>> one of the things that was said is the government puts up big exclamation mark on it. it comes to your door and asks you in the sen cucensus that ha scholarships for ethnicity. let me see if i can find that ind -- because there was money for certain groups. >> but let's pause, katon. the group with the most money for are the white americans. the way i know that by looking the data. there are set asides for scholarship funds. typically not from state universities. from state...
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well, actually government secrets to prepare a defense, i don't think so. and here's a secret for you, the top terrorist, osama bin laden, is dead. >>> no doubt if the president wins re-election those and other far right scenarios will get a new luster for the second term. because fantasy leads to more fantasy. >>> up next, the big debate last night between elizabeth warren and scott brown. well, who won that one? that was a top of the card. who lost and what does it mean for the battle for the senate? you're watching "hardball," the place for politics. if we want to improve our schools... ...what should we invest in? maybe new buildings? what about updated equipment? they can help, but recent research shows... ...nothing transforms schools like investing in advanced teacher education. let's build a strong foundation. let's invest in our teachers so they can inspire our students. let's solve this. humans -- sometimes life trips us up. and sometimes, we trip ourselves up, but that's okay. at liberty mutual insurance we can "untrip" you as you go through your
well, actually government secrets to prepare a defense, i don't think so. and here's a secret for you, the top terrorist, osama bin laden, is dead. >>> no doubt if the president wins re-election those and other far right scenarios will get a new luster for the second term. because fantasy leads to more fantasy. >>> up next, the big debate last night between elizabeth warren and scott brown. well, who won that one? that was a top of the card. who lost and what does it mean for...
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the one reliable policy you can always count on republicans controlling national government to push through are tax cuts on the wealthy. they won't close deficits, they won't do a lot of other things they say, but the one thing they will do, you can bank on it, is cut taxes for the rich. and that is hanging around him. people saw how that worked the last time. they're going through a recession that has hammered the working class in the way it has benefited the wealthy. and on top of that, he wants to do these tax cuts for the rich. that is the core truth that he has to defend. >> it is hard for him to connect with the middle class when he offers a policy like that. it's more of the same, no doubt. i want to go back to what ezra was talking about, about the economic model that the obama administration had and talking about where unemployment was going to go and how good it was going to be. all of that discussion was being presented to the american people, not knowing that we were going to have is a record amount of filibusters. obstruction is not an excuse. it is a reality. and i believe the
the one reliable policy you can always count on republicans controlling national government to push through are tax cuts on the wealthy. they won't close deficits, they won't do a lot of other things they say, but the one thing they will do, you can bank on it, is cut taxes for the rich. and that is hanging around him. people saw how that worked the last time. they're going through a recession that has hammered the working class in the way it has benefited the wealthy. and on top of that, he...
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government did this with libya. basically arming the opposition. and you know, your men ri's men ri is only my friend for so long. is that a wise approach? >> no. i have spent time on this issue. there's no doubt providing nonlethal communication support is extraordinary important and secretary clinton announced massive amount of humanitarian assistance and ku dos to the administration for doing that. the real problem here is that there's this struggle within the romney campaign itself over syria between neo-conservatives to militarily intervene and those who actually are more reticent and the problem is that mr. romney flip flops between one group and the other and can't quite decide which one is more important. the bottom line, however, for purposes of american interest in the middle east, arming a rag tag group of rebels at this point in time is inconsistent with understanding when's going to emerge of syria in the long run. one of the reasons why i'm reticent is because we don't really know who the rebels are. some of them are affiliates of al
government did this with libya. basically arming the opposition. and you know, your men ri's men ri is only my friend for so long. is that a wise approach? >> no. i have spent time on this issue. there's no doubt providing nonlethal communication support is extraordinary important and secretary clinton announced massive amount of humanitarian assistance and ku dos to the administration for doing that. the real problem here is that there's this struggle within the romney campaign itself...
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they favor small role for government. in a campaign which role of government and taxes and spending are the key issues, this breakdown is not surprising. what is interesting is that the gender gap has been around a long time. which size is able to maximize its gender better and hold its own among the other? what we are seeing is the president's ability to hold women. he is doing well among single women. quinnipiac did a poll earlier where the overall margin was in the same situation. single women were backing mr. obama 2-1. >> the numbers you would think would be daunting. more people think they are worse off four years ago than they were today. the president maintains his lead overall. you would think that would help mitt romney. >> you would think it is. it probably does to an extent. one of the problems mr. romney has is that voters just don't like him very much. we asked voters if they have a favorable, unfavorable of the president. they have a net unfavorable of the president and unfavorable for mitt romney. >> polls
they favor small role for government. in a campaign which role of government and taxes and spending are the key issues, this breakdown is not surprising. what is interesting is that the gender gap has been around a long time. which size is able to maximize its gender better and hold its own among the other? what we are seeing is the president's ability to hold women. he is doing well among single women. quinnipiac did a poll earlier where the overall margin was in the same situation. single...
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listen, cutting all the funding to pbs would not fund the federal government for one hour. that's how small a percentage that is, federal funding for public broadcasting. so swing voters know this isn't serious. they know they aren't hearing serious proposals. >> i want to play for everybody those people who are for president obama, their reaktss after this disappointing show on wednesday. >> i think he could have done better. >> i think that president obama is -- needs to put his gloves on and fight back. >> i didn't know quite what was going on as far as, you know, maybe he's dealing with some crisis in the middle east. >> i think maybe he needs to rest. >> looking for easy excuses for the president there, but for those undecideds around the country, those looking for passion from a candidate, didn't mitt romney display more passion about wanting to get hired for a job? >> yeah. there's no doubt that he had a better night, and everyone has conceded that, including the president's supporters. and i think when you look, the biggest thing to me was the president's closing st
listen, cutting all the funding to pbs would not fund the federal government for one hour. that's how small a percentage that is, federal funding for public broadcasting. so swing voters know this isn't serious. they know they aren't hearing serious proposals. >> i want to play for everybody those people who are for president obama, their reaktss after this disappointing show on wednesday. >> i think he could have done better. >> i think that president obama is -- needs to put...
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well, actually government secrets to prepare a defense, i don't think so. and here's a secret for you, the top terrorist, osama bin laden, is dead. >>> no doubt if the president wins re-election those and other far right scenarios will get a new luster for the second term. because fantasy leads to more fantasy. >>> up next, the big debate last night between elizabeth warren and scott brown. well, who won that one? that was a top of the card. who lost and what does it mean for the battle for the senate? you're watching "hardball," the place for politics. the country right now with more people watching and more dollars being spent than any other senate contest around the country. and last night in massachusetts senator scott brown and harvard law professor elizabeth warren took to the stage for a fiery second debate. you wouldn't normally think of the home state of ted kennedy and tip o'neill holding a tossup race but brown is holding his own against warren. and for him to be successful, he must convince obama voters in massachusetts and obama is expected to
well, actually government secrets to prepare a defense, i don't think so. and here's a secret for you, the top terrorist, osama bin laden, is dead. >>> no doubt if the president wins re-election those and other far right scenarios will get a new luster for the second term. because fantasy leads to more fantasy. >>> up next, the big debate last night between elizabeth warren and scott brown. well, who won that one? that was a top of the card. who lost and what does it mean for...
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who are dependent on government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they're entitled to haek, to food, to housing, to you name it. and they will vote for this president no matter what. and so my job is not to worry about those people. i'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives. >> howard, i opened the show tonight with what we call our cold open. i said does obama like you? and there's a lot of people who are going to see that ad and say, i'm in that picture somewhere. i'm a veteran, i'm this kind of person, i'm that kind of person. am i in that list of 47%? the answer, i guess, is yes. >> well, the flip side of what chuck was talking about in terms of the still existent enthusiasm gap on the obama side, on the romney side i think mitt romney has kind of maxed out on the people who are going to vote for him because they're against obama. mitt romney's challenge in this upcoming debate and in the other debates is to show some sense of humanity and empathy
who are dependent on government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they're entitled to haek, to food, to housing, to you name it. and they will vote for this president no matter what. and so my job is not to worry about those people. i'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives. >> howard, i opened the show tonight with what we call our cold open. i said does...
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i saw the president's vision as trickle-down government, and i don't think that's what america believes in. >> all right. let's put it through the spin cycle. steve, you were there in denver. what's your take? >> looking at that obama response, i think everybody says why didn't you say it to his face? why didn't you say that last night? i think, look, it's pretty well established by this point why this was such a disastrous debate for obama. i'll play a quick clip here, and this is a jumping-off point to talk about what he needs to do in the next debates to avoid a repeat of this. let's play a clip of an opening romney gave him that he completely missed. >> i'm not looking to cut massive taxes and reduce the revenues going to the government. my number one principle is there's no tax cut that adds to the deficit. i want to underline that. virtually everything you said about my tax plan is inaccurate. so if the tax plan he described were a tax plan i was asked to support, i'd say absolutely not. i'm not looking for 5i trillion tax cut. i won't put in a place a tax cut that adds to the def
i saw the president's vision as trickle-down government, and i don't think that's what america believes in. >> all right. let's put it through the spin cycle. steve, you were there in denver. what's your take? >> looking at that obama response, i think everybody says why didn't you say it to his face? why didn't you say that last night? i think, look, it's pretty well established by this point why this was such a disastrous debate for obama. i'll play a quick clip here, and this is...
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you worked in the government, in the white house under clinton. it's absurd. explain to us -- walk us through. we shouldn't have to debunk this, but walk us through why it's not credible, possible, plausible. >> let me give you a story that illustrates why it's so implausible. back when president clinton was running for his second term, the bureau of labor statistics and bureau of economic affairs that comes up with the gdp number were changing the way we measure gdp growth, okay? and they were going to something that is a technical term called chain weighted gdp. >> sure. yeah. >> and the result of going to chain weighted gdp was that the gdp number would be lower than in the old methodology. the president was furious because everyone thought they were coming up with a number that was lower. he said, can't you stop this? can't you -- can't you wait until after the election? we said, no. they're an independent agency. we can't touch them. what we can do is try to explain what the numbers are. >> right. >> how they're derived, what does chain weighted do. the p
you worked in the government, in the white house under clinton. it's absurd. explain to us -- walk us through. we shouldn't have to debunk this, but walk us through why it's not credible, possible, plausible. >> let me give you a story that illustrates why it's so implausible. back when president clinton was running for his second term, the bureau of labor statistics and bureau of economic affairs that comes up with the gdp number were changing the way we measure gdp growth, okay? and...
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of government, and here is how it's going to work. moderator jim lehrer will start each segment off by asking a question. he will give each candidate two minutes to answer the question, and then they'll use the remainder of the time to have a discussion about the topic at hand. so that's how it's going to work. of course, both of these candidates putting the final touches on their debate preparations. they're being incredibly tight-lipped, which, of course, is frustrating to those of us in the media about how exactly these debate preparations are going but both ann romney and first lady michelle obama will be there tomorrow night in denver. one more interesting note, martin, it is the first couple's 20th anniversary tomorrow night. they will be together, they will be together in denver, and they will have a proper celebration this weekend. >> wow. celebrating and working at the same time. nbc's kristin welker. thanks so much. we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] eligible for medicare? that's a good thing, but it doesn't cover every
of government, and here is how it's going to work. moderator jim lehrer will start each segment off by asking a question. he will give each candidate two minutes to answer the question, and then they'll use the remainder of the time to have a discussion about the topic at hand. so that's how it's going to work. of course, both of these candidates putting the final touches on their debate preparations. they're being incredibly tight-lipped, which, of course, is frustrating to those of us in the...
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>> industrial america can actually respond to government breaks. industrial america would take -- if you allowed this em eed thet money back from overseas with assistance of hiring, they would do it, but the money's all overseas. they're not repate yriated. >> why would you let them bring the money back in and all they'll do it use it for dividends? >> that's what they did under the republicans. they didn't care. they made no deal. these guys would make a deal. if you just committed to saying, listen, you have 10,000 employees now. if you have 12,000 employees a year from now, we are going to let you repatriate. but they've got to put it first. you hire, then you get the money back. because if you give them the money back first, they will just give it to shareholders. >> that's right. >> by the way, there are worse things to do than getting $2 trillion back circulating in the united states. because you know what, the shareholders aren't all gordon gecko. >> 90 million people. >> so i hear these people going, oh! they'll just give the money to share
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security they are uncertain what camp he would fall into and are uncertainly themselves about how he would govern. would he take the lead in bombing iran if the mullahs were getting to close or just back up the israelis one of his senior advises asked. would he push for peace with the palestinians or live with the status quo? he's left himself a lot of wiggle room. if they don't know, who does? >> steve clemons is editor-at-large and david corn has a new book out tomorrow. you broke that story. steve, i'm going to be pretty broad here and just start with my critique of romney. every time he speaks he lists more fronts he wants to get hotter and he wants to stay in longer whether it's afghanistan or iraq, he wants to go in deeper. should have gone in deeper on libya and syria. should be tougher on drawing a bright line earlier than anybody but the israelis in terms of the iranian nuclear threat. everything is go to war, go to war. name anyone in his family history going back or forward who has ever put on a military uniform. they have no intention of participating in all these wars in any way and
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solve this. >>> well, jim, when it comes to jobs, president obama prefers what i call a trickle down government solution. now, my plan is different. it involves 41 basic elements, 6 abrupt reversals of positions, and 3 outright lies. >> we're back. for political comedians the presidential debate is the gift that keeps on giving, and nobody does it better than "saturday night live." this week's show tapped into the zeitgeist of last wednesday's debate, romney stretching the truth and obama not catching him. let's watch. >> the anniversary gift, i can't believe i forgot the anniversary gift. okay. i'll be out of here by 9:00 local time. i'll have the secret service distract michelle while i hit the hotel gift shop for some kind of anniversary president. they had a denver broncos sweatshirt. she might like that. the hotel had some nice bathrobes for sale. that could be good. >> excuse me, governor, mr. president? >> i'm sorry, yeah, yeah. what's up? >> mr. president, governor romney has just said that he killed osama bin laden. would you care to respond? >> no, you two go ahead. >> with me now is
solve this. >>> well, jim, when it comes to jobs, president obama prefers what i call a trickle down government solution. now, my plan is different. it involves 41 basic elements, 6 abrupt reversals of positions, and 3 outright lies. >> we're back. for political comedians the presidential debate is the gift that keeps on giving, and nobody does it better than "saturday night live." this week's show tapped into the zeitgeist of last wednesday's debate, romney stretching...
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the federal government are so intent on suing you? >> i'll tell you, that is one very significant issue that we wish would have been corrected with dodd/frank and some of these other things, the notion that there are now 50 states in the mix, so you have a situation, for example, the big banks are regulated by the federal government, but the non-bank mortgage companies are actually regulated by 50 states and the federal government with a patchwork of regulations and a lot of uncertainty. by the way, all that government uncertainty right now, while rates are very low, they actually could be lower. >> lower? >> they could be lower. rates are .25% higher over treasuries than they've ever been really because of fear and uncertainty because of future regulations that are still yet to come out. that's $50 a month for an average home buyer. >> and something else we don't talk a lot about but also very significant, even with the incredibly low mortgage rates, try and get one. you have got to go through the banks are extraordinarily stringent
the federal government are so intent on suing you? >> i'll tell you, that is one very significant issue that we wish would have been corrected with dodd/frank and some of these other things, the notion that there are now 50 states in the mix, so you have a situation, for example, the big banks are regulated by the federal government, but the non-bank mortgage companies are actually regulated by 50 states and the federal government with a patchwork of regulations and a lot of uncertainty....
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which has government thinking it can do a better job than free people pursuing their dreams. it's not working. the truth is that 50% of college graduates this year can't find work. >> is that accurate? >> well, again, this is one where it depends how you're defining the terms. 50% is not a number people have, but 53.6% the ap found a couple weeks ago is the number of college grads who are unemployed or underemployed. underemployed, key term there. doesn't mean they're out of work, but it could mean people are coming out of college with really great degrees, a lot of education, and are working at jobs that don't meet that. that could be anything from, you know, somebody with a fancy diploma working at mcdonald's to somebody with a business education working as an assistant, not quite up to the level of what they have studied in school, have been prepared for in school. >> edward isaac of politico, thank you so much for trying to help us make sense of some of this stuff. you know what, i want to encourage folks to go to pl politico.com as well. it's a good read. appreciate your
which has government thinking it can do a better job than free people pursuing their dreams. it's not working. the truth is that 50% of college graduates this year can't find work. >> is that accurate? >> well, again, this is one where it depends how you're defining the terms. 50% is not a number people have, but 53.6% the ap found a couple weeks ago is the number of college grads who are unemployed or underemployed. underemployed, key term there. doesn't mean they're out of work,...
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government. but while the office is constitutionally weak, american presidents have often had enormous power. this comes through each of the offices of the individual presidents to persuade, to wield influence, and at times that power has seemed almost boundless. presidential scholar has more on the presidential strength, underlying our notion of what makes a good president. for many citizens, the president is the ideal of america, and many value strength above all else. which is why of course so many were agast about president obama's performance on wednesday night. they were left asking is he weak? and if he is weak, are we, as a nation, weak? so deep breath, let's pause for a moment and think about what aspects of strength we value. it takes strength to deal honestly with your opponents, even when they deal dishonestly with you. it takes strength to take the tough calls, even when you are not sure how they will turn out. it takes strength to have the patience to watch policy become progress. a
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. >> i tell what you, there are a lot of small-government conservatives that don't think we should be spending over $2 billion a week in afghanistan, who don't think the president should have tripled down the number of troops when he had a chance to pull back and bring those troops home. a lot of conservatives believe that. i think this is a missed opportunity. >> well, and foreign policy clearly is going to be an area where mitt romney will want to make a turn in terms of the narrative of the campaign. one other issue that is now coming into the forefront is the benghazi attack and news over the weekend that the four americans including the u.s. ambassador there who were killed according to politico, romney advisers are now split over how broadly they should hit the president over his handling of that attack. and why it took so long to acknowledge that it was an act of terrorism. while some romney advisers argue they should keep their focus on the economy, politico says plans are in the works for mitt romney to deliver a major foreign policy speech shortly after wednesday's debate. w
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he knows how to govern. and he knows how to lay out the principle, bring people together to achieve those goals in the legislative process, and that's what he's going to do here for america if he's elected. >> i understand that, but briefly, ed, doesn't a voter deserve to know which loophole he will or will not have if he votes for mitt romney? >> well, you know, he talked about last night, you heard him put out, you know, the concept of maybe you would cap the level of deductions so you wouldn't, you know, necessarily eliminate a loophole, you would limit how much of them -- how many deductions you could take. that would give people discretion. you could figure out how high that should be. should it be a percentage of income? should it be a set figure? there are a lot of ways you can get these things done, willie. but again, if you do it in a campaign environment, you say here's this one, here's that one and people lock in on one side or the other against it, that's not the way to get things done. and that'
he knows how to govern. and he knows how to lay out the principle, bring people together to achieve those goals in the legislative process, and that's what he's going to do here for america if he's elected. >> i understand that, but briefly, ed, doesn't a voter deserve to know which loophole he will or will not have if he votes for mitt romney? >> well, you know, he talked about last night, you heard him put out, you know, the concept of maybe you would cap the level of deductions...
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there was a strange government that collapsed in a pool of blood. and now we see the aftermath. and the aftermath always is protracted. we have the same problem on a much different and a bigger scale in egypt. we are developing such a problem, we're being confronted by such a problem increasingly in syria. tell me who is the opposition in syria? we are all concerned about the problem, the loss of life, the killings. we know who assad is. the united states says he should go. who's the opposition? you tell me. >> which is the same question we were asking in libya before gadhafi fell. >> so we're dealing here with a messy region which is increasingly slipping into increased instability, a region in which american domination is rapidly, rapidly coming to an end. we have to face that fact. and a region which on top of it is faced with a potential war. we have a prime minister of a country that has 200 nuclear weapons decides to attack preemptively iran, which may be building nuclear weapons. and then we become engaged, and then, of course, the world economy goes pot. and then forget
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you let the federal government spend trillions of dollars, and good things will happen. we republicans disagree with it today. we disagreed with it for the past four years. we've disagreed with it for the past 40 years. so just to say we republicans just want the economy to fail, with all due respect to joe, that's irresponsible. >> i think the president believes in the private sector maybe a little bit more than that. the other thing is, obama, they were saying he tanked the economy going into the election four years ago. and now, of course, he's manipulating the numbers to make it look good, he's pretty good, this obama guy, manipulating the economy. but my feeling is the economy is actually picking up. >> it is. >> we slowed down in the spring, and now it is picking up. housing is up. >> exactly. >> autos up. >> consumer confidence is up. >> consumer confidence is up. union pacific. >> stock market. >> said his traffic on his railroad is up over last year. that's huge. >> you know, i have had a good friend in florida that -- earl durden, late, great earl durden, he ha
you let the federal government spend trillions of dollars, and good things will happen. we republicans disagree with it today. we disagreed with it for the past four years. we've disagreed with it for the past 40 years. so just to say we republicans just want the economy to fail, with all due respect to joe, that's irresponsible. >> i think the president believes in the private sector maybe a little bit more than that. the other thing is, obama, they were saying he tanked the economy...